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Fantasy » alt.fan.pratchett » [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting
| [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294437] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 18:50 |
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(Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
I've been wanting to buy some new bras recently, and I've got all
confused about sizes again. I am an awkward size (small frame, large
bust), which makes shopping (and trying different sizes, etc) doubly
difficult since there are hardly any non-specialist shops in existence
which stock my size - I've found Figleaves and Bravissimo's websites to
be a godsend, as it's pretty much the only way I can buy bras. The
downside is that it makes trying on a bunch of different makes/sizes
impractical and very costly for me, pre-return.
What with hearing all these horror stories about women who go through
life with the wrong-sized bra for decades, I measured myself the other
day and checked with various online fitting guides[1] - they all pretty
unanimously gave me 34DD - a band size larger than I'm used to, and
*three* cup sizes smaller than I have at present.
I got confused. Surely I couldn't be that far out? I remeasured. I got
my boyfriend to measure. Same results. My current bras seem to fit me
fairly well, although they do dig in at the front of the band sometimes
(I assumed due to the weight of my breasts), but I started getting
paranoid. The only time I've been professionally measured was when I was
15 (five years ago) and I was declared a 32F then - although that was in
M&S, and I know how notoriously unreliable they can be...
In the meantime, I had ordered a Rigby & Peller bra that I saw was
half-price (bringing it into my normal bra price range[2]) and it fitted
beautifully. The bit between the cups was flat against my chest and
everything. The only thing is that I realised that I had done it up on
the tightest set of hooks, as with most of my bras, which may mean that
the band is a little big... which could push me into a 30G. Wow,
*that's* a normal size that it'll be easy to find bras in... (grr)
In conclusion then, I guess I have pretty much the right size (I hope).
But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out? Doesn't this
mean that it's completely useless as far as finding your size goes? Is
it perhaps only useless for those of us with non-average breasts? Or do
I just have a weirdly-shaped bust? Will we ever find out who shot JR?
Why do I have the feeling that AFP will overwhelmingly answer the last
question instead of the others? :-)
[1] It goes something like: measure under breasts, add five (or three if
over 33'), round down if an odd number (of inches), measure around cups,
subtract difference... yada yada.
[2] £25-£35 - and that's for something fairly basic. To get something
'pretty', you generally need to add at least a fiver onto that, which I
can't justify for a piece of underwear! Man, it'll be nice in The Future
(TM) when all high-street fashion shops will accept DD+ cups as normal
and won't force us into over-priced specialist shops with no range...
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294441 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 19:08 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:01 +0100, Cathy Young
<cathy [at] bentbacktulips.co.uk> wrote:
<snip>
>But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out?
Yes.
>Doesn't this mean that it's completely useless as far as finding your
>size goes?
Yes
>Is it perhaps only useless for those of us with non-average breasts?
Possibly, possibly not.
>Or do I just have a weirdly-shaped bust?
JPG?
>Will we ever find out who shot JR?
I believe he was shot by the camera crew every week.
>Why do I have the feeling that AFP will overwhelmingly answer the last
>question instead of the others? :-)
Experience.
--
Andy Brown
Pascal - A programming language named after a man who would turn over in his
grave if he knew about it.
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294442 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 19:23 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> What with hearing all these horror stories about women who go through
> life with the wrong-sized bra for decades, I measured myself the other
> day and checked with various online fitting guides[1] - they all pretty
> unanimously gave me 34DD - a band size larger than I'm used to, and
> *three* cup sizes smaller than I have at present.
Those online fitting guides are complete rubbish. The "standard"
guidance seems to only fit women with really bizarre breasts - so it's
hardly surprising that something like 75% of women in the UK allegedly
wear the wrong bra size.
Simple rule for getting an approximation: the measurement around your
chest below your breasts is your bra size. Subtract this from the
measurement around your breasts at the fullest point to get your cup
size - go up a cup size for each inch (not counting double-letter
sizes).
Then go and try on lots of bras to get an idea - you may find that your
back size is bigger in some bras, and your cup size is bigger or
smaller, depending on the make. In conclusion then, I guess I have
pretty much the right size (I hope).
> But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out? Doesn't this
> mean that it's completely useless as far as finding your size goes? Is
> it perhaps only useless for those of us with non-average breasts? Or do
> I just have a weirdly-shaped bust? Will we ever find out who shot JR?
No, you're not weird, you're normal. I've been told by one of those
online guides that I'm a 40AA (anyone who's seen me will assure you
that I'm not), and I know of other people who have been told far too
big a back size and far too small a cup size.
Jenny
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294443 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 19:27 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> (Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
<starts singing "Happy days are here again">
> In conclusion then, I guess I have pretty much the right size (I
> hope). But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out?
Yes. When I went to shops that had been trained to measure the
"official" way, they invariably tried to fit me with bras that were
far too big in the back size and far too small in the cup size. When
I went to a specialist bra shop they estimated my size and then
kept trying different bras until they found one that fitted (and
looked good!). I went in wearing a 46E and walked out wearing
a 34J. So I can well believe that your "official" measurements
are that far out.
> Doesn't this mean that it's completely useless as far as finding your
> size goes? Is it perhaps only useless for those of us with
> non-average breasts?
I think it just doesn't scale up properly, so it's probably OK for
those lucky enough to have 'normal' breasts. I dunno if it works
as badly for those with below average cup sizes, though.
> Or do I just have a weirdly-shaped bust?
It's hard to tell from here. :-)
> Will we ever find out who shot JR?
It was a dream, wasn't it?
> Why do I have the feeling that AFP will overwhelmingly answer the last
> question instead of the others? :-)
Past experience?
The best advice I can give is to go to a proper, specialist bra shop,
where they're used to seeing women with breasts that aren't
average. Finding one isn't always easy, though. Where do you
live? I know of a good shop in Pontefract, West Yorkshire.
Diane L.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294448 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 19:40 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> [2] £25-£35 - and that's for something fairly basic. To get something
> 'pretty', you generally need to add at least a fiver onto that, which I
> can't justify for a piece of underwear! Man, it'll be nice in The Future
> (TM) when all high-street fashion shops will accept DD+ cups as normal
> and won't force us into over-priced specialist shops with no range...
I find Debenhams are good for range, fashionability AND price, when I have
to take my teenage daughter shopping for a new bra... (she's 32E and we
cannot find anything in any other high street shops) and I flat out refuse
to use mail order/internet shops as she's had nightmares before with stuff
that didn't fit properly.
us single parents have enough trouble and then we have to take them lingerie
shopping as well... arghhhhh
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XP, unsafe on the information highway at any speed
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294450 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:05 |
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jester wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:01 +0100, Cathy Young
>
>> Or do I just have a weirdly-shaped bust?
>
> JPG?
>
BMPs, shirley?
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Regards
Nigel Stapley
www.judgemental.plus.com
<reply-to will bounce>
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294451 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:08 |
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On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:27:04 +0100, Diane L
<dianenews [at] lindquist.plus.com> wrote:
<snip bra sizing>
>
>I think it just doesn't scale up properly, so it's probably OK for
>those lucky enough to have 'normal' breasts. I dunno if it works
>as badly for those with below average cup sizes, though.
Possibly worse, because there's a fair chance of measured size + offset
being larger than size around breasts if there's not much breast.
--
Andy Brown
First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds
language. Then they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because
I no verbs. - Peter Ellis on afp
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294453 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:35 |
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> I've been wanting to buy some new bras recently, and I've got all
> confused about sizes again. I am an awkward size (small frame, large
> bust), which makes shopping (and trying different sizes, etc) doubly
> difficult since there are hardly any non-specialist shops in existence
> which stock my size - I've found Figleaves and Bravissimo's websites to
> be a godsend, as it's pretty much the only way I can buy bras. The
> downside is that it makes trying on a bunch of different makes/sizes
> impractical and very costly for me, pre-return.
Unless you're on a tight budget, specialst shops, despite the high
prices, may be the way you need to go. My wife has an extremely large
bust-- basically off the scale, no matter what scale you're talking
about. (And it's not silicone[1] either.) The last time she was
measured, she was declared 36II.
In the end, she ended up making herself thick-fabric corsets. This way,
she has something that actually supports the weight, and since the part
wrapping around her is larger than 1-2 cm, it doesn't cut into her skin.
[1] Or any other potentially dangerous substance used to feed ladies'
vanities, their partners' egos, or their customers' libidos.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294455 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:41 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> (Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
>
The online measurement guides tell me I'm a 36C. Selfridges tell me I'm
a 30 or 32D. Selfridges are right. For the first time *ever* my bras
don't hurt.
--
Random_c
Drive-by postings a speciality
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294457 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:43 |
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clanwilliam [at] gmail.com wrote:
> No, you're not weird, you're normal. I've been told by one of those
> online guides that I'm a 40AA (anyone who's seen me will assure you
> that I'm not), and I know of other people who have been told far too
> big a back size and far too small a cup size.
>
*waves* that'd be me.
Which was handy, actually as the far-too-big-in-the-cups bra I bought to
pad out for Miss Banana Whip actually fits me perfectly.
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Random_c
Drive-by postings a speciality
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294458 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:45 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:01 +0100, Cathy Young
<cathy [at] bentbacktulips.co.uk> wrote:
>But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out? Doesn't this
>mean that it's completely useless as far as finding your size goes?
Yes, and only *mostly* useless.
I think the problem is that two measurements by themselves do not contain
enough information to allow a perfect fit to be selected. They're more
like... guidelines.
This is what bra-shop assistants are for, if they know their trade. They
can take the figures, and *also* get an idea of the actual shape of the
customer, with a view towards pointing them in the direction of a bra
mfr/model combination that best suits them.
In order to clear up this confusion, a new bra-measuring system will need
to be developed that uses more than just those two measurements. Either
that, or self-adjusting bras will need to be invented.
-SteveD
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294460 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 20:46 |
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Paul Cooke wrote:
> Cathy Young wrote:
>
>
>>[2] £25-£35 - and that's for something fairly basic. To get something
>>'pretty', you generally need to add at least a fiver onto that, which I
>>can't justify for a piece of underwear! Man, it'll be nice in The Future
>>(TM) when all high-street fashion shops will accept DD+ cups as normal
>>and won't force us into over-priced specialist shops with no range...
>
>
> I find Debenhams are good for range, fashionability AND price, when I have
> to take my teenage daughter shopping for a new bra... (she's 32E and we
> cannot find anything in any other high street shops) and I flat out refuse
> to use mail order/internet shops as she's had nightmares before with stuff
> that didn't fit properly.
>
I would also like to chip in with this:
While I spent £90 on two bras in Selfridges when I got measured, I *had*
picked the two most expensive, partly because I had never had any bras
that fit so well, and partly because I'd never had bras that were just
plain *pretty*. I'd always had padded monstrosities, because I thought I
was flat-chested and needed them (I went in wearing a 34B and came out
wearing a 32D and a huge grin) but I could just as easily have got bras
that were about £20 each. I also have a Debenhams bra that fits just as
well as the poncy ones, and was, IIRC, £15 two cons ago.
--
Random_c
Drive-by postings a speciality
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294463 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:06 |
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Random C wrote:
> Cathy Young wrote:
>
>> (Ah, the perennial AFP bra thread.)
>>
> The online measurement guides tell me I'm a 36C. Selfridges tell me I'm
> a 30 or 32D. Selfridges are right. For the first time *ever* my bras
> don't hurt.
Oh, I just looked at another one someone commented about on LJ. *that*
tells me I'm a 38A.
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Random_c
Drive-by postings a speciality
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294472 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:28 |
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Diane L wrote:
> Cathy Young wrote:
>> In conclusion then, I guess I have pretty much the right size (I
>> hope). But then, is the "official" fitting guide *so* far out?
>
> Yes.
I'm glad everyone keeps saying this; I thought I was going loopy. It's a
bit weird when there's this One Accepted Way of measuring for a bra, and
apparently a significant percentage of women for whom it doesn't work at
all. Makes you wonder who came up with the system in the first place,
and *why*...
> When
> I went to a specialist bra shop they estimated my size and then
> kept trying different bras until they found one that fitted (and
> looked good!). I went in wearing a 46E and walked out wearing
> a 34J. So I can well believe that your "official" measurements
> are that far out.
Ouch, that must be hellish trying to find anything in your size... I
thought I had troubles :-)
> The best advice I can give is to go to a proper, specialist bra shop,
> where they're used to seeing women with breasts that aren't
> average. Finding one isn't always easy, though. Where do you
> live? I know of a good shop in Pontefract, West Yorkshire.
It does seem like the best thing to do. I live in Coventry, and looking
at Bravissimo's website shows that they have a shop in Solihull, not too
far away. I shall have to hie me down there someday soon...
--
Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294473 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:29 |
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jester wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 18:27:04 +0100, Diane L
> <dianenews [at] lindquist.plus.com> wrote:
> <snip bra sizing>
>>
>>I think it just doesn't scale up properly, so it's probably OK for
>>those lucky enough to have 'normal' breasts. I dunno if it works
>>as badly for those with below average cup sizes, though.
>
> Possibly worse, because there's a fair chance of measured size + offset
> being larger than size around breasts if there's not much breast.
So what we're saying is that the sizing system barely works at all for
women with larger breasts, and may be even worse for those with smaller
breasts?
Tell me there's *someone* out there for whom this produces the correct
size...
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294474 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:31 |
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Nigel Stapley wrote:
> jester wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:01 +0100, Cathy Young
>
>>
>>> Or do I just have a weirdly-shaped bust?
>>
>> JPG?
>>
>
> BMPs, shirley?
Sorry, I only have a pair of TIFFs, and they're too large to post on the
group...
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294478 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:34 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> Tell me there's *someone* out there for whom this produces the correct
> size...
>
....you expect this? Are you that one fabled woman for whom the clothes
in shops *actually fit*? (In marks and spencers I am somewhere between a
6 and a 14. From what I can work out, my waist is a 6 and my arse is a
14. In Miss Selfridge, last I tried a size 16 was far too small.
On pure measurements, I am within a couple of centimetres of the
apparent fashion-industry ideal size 12 that sample garments are made to
(or as my drafting tutor put it 'goodness! You're almost a Gloria!
Except a different *shape*...')
--
Random_c
Drive-by postings a speciality
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294479 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:35 |
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On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:31:32 +0100, Cathy Young
<cathy [at] bentbacktulips.co.uk> wrote:
>Nigel Stapley wrote:
>> jester wrote:
>>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 17:50:01 +0100, Cathy Young
>>
>>>
>>>> Or do I just have a weirdly-shaped bust?
>>>
>>> JPG?
>>>
>>
>> BMPs, shirley?
>
>Sorry, I only have a pair of TIFFs, and they're too large to post on the
>group...
*snigger*
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294483 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:46 |
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clanwilliam [at] gmail.com wrote:
> Cathy Young wrote:
> Those online fitting guides are complete rubbish. [...]
>
> Simple rule for getting an approximation: the measurement around your
> chest below your breasts is your bra size. Subtract this from the
> measurement around your breasts at the fullest point to get your cup
> size - go up a cup size for each inch (not counting double-letter
> sizes).
That actually makes a lot of sense, and ties in with my notion that I
need to go down another band size. I'll have to try this and see if it
helps. Thank you for the alternative system; I'm sure it's much more
accurate than the standard one. Now we just have to help you take over
the world with it.
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294485 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 21:54 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> clanwilliam [at] gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Cathy Young wrote:
>
>
>> Those online fitting guides are complete rubbish. [...]
>>
>> Simple rule for getting an approximation: the measurement around your
>> chest below your breasts is your bra size. Subtract this from the
>> measurement around your breasts at the fullest point to get your cup
>> size - go up a cup size for each inch (not counting double-letter
>> sizes).
>
>
> That actually makes a lot of sense, and ties in with my notion that I
> need to go down another band size. I'll have to try this and see if it
> helps. Thank you for the alternative system; I'm sure it's much more
> accurate than the standard one. Now we just have to help you take over
> the world with it.
>
It's only a *base* for the right size however. In inches by that system
I'm a C, however, as my breasts are quite wide (and doing their best to
crawl up my armpits) I actually need a D, or the wires are digging in
horribly.
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Random_c
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294487 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:02 |
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Random C wrote:
> I'm a C, however, as my breasts are quite wide
So that's what "Random C" means.
>(and doing
> their best to crawl up my armpits)
And thank you for that visit from Mr. Mental Image Fairy.
Never let it be said, either, that I don't send pics where there's even a
hint of a polite request.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/esmeraldus/ICFA_1.jpg
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294489 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:10 |
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Anastasia wrote:
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/esmeraldus/ICFA_1.jpg
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>
Aha! Looking at that, you might well be suitable for The Thin One. :)
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Random_c
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294495 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:14 |
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Random C wrote:
> Cathy Young wrote:
>
>> Tell me there's *someone* out there for whom this produces the correct
>> size...
>
> ....you expect this? Are you that one fabled woman for whom the clothes
> in shops *actually fit*?
Hmm. Generally speaking I have around a size 10 waist, size 14 hips and
bust.
In M&S this translates as a size 12 for pretty much everything, except
their strappy tops/vests, which have to be size 16/18 to not be very tight.
In Next this is a size 14 top and bottom, except their size 14
trousers/skirts are a little big. (What can you do though?)
In Monsoon it's 12/14 on top. No idea about skirts and trousers, but I'd
guess at 14.
In New Look it's generally a 12, but sometimes 14 depending on the item.
In River Island I think it's 14 for tops, 10 for skirts. Not sure about
trousers.
In Topshop/Miss Selfridge/other teen shops it's 14/16 all the way.
In Oasis they make their clothes extra small, so I'd guess a 16 if I'm
lucky (haven't checked, but I bet they don't do above size 16).
Although I generally know my size in the clothes shops I infrequently
frequent, and am not bad at judging off the rail whether I need a
different size than I think, clothes don't fit me anyway. Being rather
short, the hems/sleeves tend to be 2-3" too long all round :-)
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294496 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:18 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
clothes don't fit me anyway. Being rather
> short, the hems/sleeves tend to be 2-3" too long all round :-)
>
My personal issue is that women are apparently expected to go out in
front as well as behind below the waist and I don't - it's all behind
me. This results in trousers which are nice and baggy in the front
pockets but also hugely baggy above my arse.
When not wearing a belt, the back of my trousers have been used by
oh-so-amusing coworkers as a place to keep magazines, electric
screwdrivers, small computers...
--
Random_c
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294497 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:19 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> [2] =A325-=A335 - and that's for something fairly basic. To get something
> 'pretty', you generally need to add at least a fiver onto that, which I
> can't justify for a piece of underwear! Man, it'll be nice in The Future
> (TM) when all high-street fashion shops will accept DD+ cups as normal
> and won't force us into over-priced specialist shops with no range...
I'm going to suggest La Senza here, as I've noticed they do a
reasonable selection of bras of that size or over. In fact, when I've
looking for something average-sized in their sales, they always seem to
be full of either small or large sizes.
They do sometimes seem to have a plethora of pink ones with the words
'Naughty Girl' [1] on, or other stuff like that, though. But you can
usually find something nice and not bright pink in amongst the rest.
[1] Urrgggghh. =20
CCA
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Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:23 |
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Random C wrote:
> Anastasia wrote:
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>> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/esmeraldus/ICFA_1.jpg
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> Aha! Looking at that, you might well be suitable for The Thin One.
> :)
Then I am willing. I'd love to participate in the goings-on, but I'm just
too busy to put something together at my first con. I'd be delighted to be a
part of someone else's gig, though.
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Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:24 |
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Anastasia wrote:
> Random C wrote:
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>>Anastasia wrote:
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>>> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/esmeraldus/ICFA_1.jpg
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>>Aha! Looking at that, you might well be suitable for The Thin One.
>>:)
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>
> Then I am willing. I'd love to participate in the goings-on, but I'm just
> too busy to put something together at my first con. I'd be delighted to be a
> part of someone else's gig, though.
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>
Taken off-group (unless your addess isn't valid, in which case, mine is,
please mail me)
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294500 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:27 |
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CCA wrote:
> Cathy Young wrote:
>
>> Man, it'll be nice in The Future
>> (TM) when all high-street fashion shops will accept DD+ cups as normal
>> and won't force us into over-priced specialist shops with no range...
>
> I'm going to suggest La Senza here, as I've noticed they do a
> reasonable selection of bras of that size or over.
Looking at their website they seem to only do up to an E-cup. Do they go
higher than this in the store? Otherwise, they fall a little short of my
requirements :-)
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294501 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:21 |
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On 04/07/2006 20:46, Cathy Young wrote:
> clanwilliam [at] gmail.com wrote:
>> Cathy Young wrote:
>
>> Those online fitting guides are complete rubbish. [...]
>>
>> Simple rule for getting an approximation: the measurement around
>> your chest below your breasts is your bra size. Subtract this
>> from the measurement around your breasts at the fullest point to
>> get your cup size - go up a cup size for each inch (not counting
>> double-letter sizes).
>
> That actually makes a lot of sense, and ties in with my notion that
> I need to go down another band size. I'll have to try this and see
> if it helps. Thank you for the alternative system; I'm sure it's
> much more accurate than the standard one. Now we just have to help
> you take over the world with it.
Many years ago I found out that the most reliable place to get
measured for a bra was in Marks and Spencer(at least in the UK).
Though most people then went elsewhere to actually purchase one.
elfin
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294502 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:34 |
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Anastasia wrote:
<snippety>
> Never let it be said, either, that I don't send pics where there's even a
> hint of a polite request.
> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/esmeraldus/ICFA_1.jpg
Looks at picture.
Did you say you were going to be in London before the Con?
(Not sure if he should stay well away or wander down)
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afpSlave to CCA
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294506 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:42 |
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elfin wrote:
> On 04/07/2006 20:46, Cathy Young wrote:
>
>> clanwilliam [at] gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Cathy Young wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Those online fitting guides are complete rubbish. [...]
>>>
>>> Simple rule for getting an approximation: the measurement around
>>> your chest below your breasts is your bra size. Subtract this
>>> from the measurement around your breasts at the fullest point to
>>> get your cup size - go up a cup size for each inch (not counting
>>> double-letter sizes).
>>
>>
>> That actually makes a lot of sense, and ties in with my notion that
>> I need to go down another band size. I'll have to try this and see
>> if it helps. Thank you for the alternative system; I'm sure it's
>> much more accurate than the standard one. Now we just have to help
>> you take over the world with it.
>
>
> Many years ago I found out that the most reliable place to get measured
> for a bra was in Marks and Spencer(at least in the UK). Though most
> people then went elsewhere to actually purchase one.
>
> elfin
It was Marks & Sparks that told me I was a 34B. So I suspect their
accuracy varies wildly from branch to branch.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294508 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:43 |
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Dom wrote:
> Anastasia wrote:
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> <snippety>
>
>> Never let it be said, either, that I don't send pics where there's
>> even a hint of a polite request.
>> http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c331/esmeraldus/ICFA_1.jpg
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> Looks at picture.
That's me at a public professional event, BTW. A similar picture appears in
the May 2006 issue of Locus, with two of the editors of GoL.
> Did you say you were going to be in London before the Con?
Why, yes, I am. There's talk of a meet, but I haven't carried it forward due
to an acute attack of RL, plus group doings.
> (Not sure if he should stay well away or wander down)
I get that a lot. ;-)
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294509 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:46 |
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elfin wrote:
> Many years ago I found out that the most reliable place to get
> measured for a bra was in Marks and Spencer(at least in the UK).
> Though most people then went elsewhere to actually purchase one.
I suspect it depends on what end of the size spectrum you are, judging
by the reports I've heard elsewhere. Personally the one measurement I
got was good, but all the bras I've bought there in recent years have
been uncomfortable enough that I don't want to bother trying them again.
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294514 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:47 |
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"elfin" <elfin [at] blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e8ej4p$udv$1 [at] mud.stack.nl...
> Many years ago I found out that the most reliable place to get measured
> for a bra was in Marks and Spencer(at least in the UK). Though most people
> then went elsewhere to actually purchase one.
I heartily recommend La Senza in Putney.
Not for you, obviously.
- MEG
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294516 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:54 |
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Random C wrote:
> elfin wrote:
> > Many years ago I found out that the most reliable place to get measured
> > for a bra was in Marks and Spencer(at least in the UK). Though most
> > people then went elsewhere to actually purchase one.
> >
> > elfin
> It was Marks & Sparks that told me I was a 34B. So I suspect their
> accuracy varies wildly from branch to branch.
Marble Arch, perchance? They told me years ago that I was a 38 C (and
insisted on measuring while I was wearing a bra, which was just
pointless). So I went across the street to Selfridges and was told 34
and a letter that wasn't too far off my first initial. (I've managed to
lose a bit off since then).
Selfridges were very dismissive of M&S's alleged fitting service, but
no more so than I was.
I've also tried Bravissimo, who are good, but Selfridge's are still
tops (as you yourself can confirm!). Must try Rigby & Peller some time,
but I might never buy one of their bras. The single best bra I ever
tried on was an R&P, but I didn't fancy paying =A350+ for something that
just made me acutely aware of what the Queen looked like in her
underwear. Which was not a mental image I wanted.
Jenny
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294518 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:54 |
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Random C wrote:
<con costumes>
> Taken off-group (unless your addess isn't valid, in which case,
> mine is, please mail me)
Both my Reply-to and From are valid, but I haven't got anything from you and
my e-mail to you from esmeraldusatearthlinkdotcom was spat back. Will try
again in a bit.
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294519 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 22:59 |
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Cathy Young wrote:
> CCA wrote:
> > Cathy Young wrote:
> >
> >> Man, it'll be nice in The Future
> >> (TM) when all high-street fashion shops will accept DD+ cups as normal
> >> and won't force us into over-priced specialist shops with no range...
> >
> > I'm going to suggest La Senza here, as I've noticed they do a
> > reasonable selection of bras of that size or over.
>
> Looking at their website they seem to only do up to an E-cup. Do they go
> higher than this in the store? Otherwise, they fall a little short of my
> requirements :-)
Go to Selfridges. There's one in Brum. They are the best I've ever
encountered (and Bravissimo are good, but not as good). They basically
stick you in a dressing room, measure you and come back with a mountain
of bras which they make you try on until they find a range that fits
you. They won't let you buy a bra that doesn't fit properly but they
won't look at you funny if you say that you don't like a particular one
because it's not pretty enough or whatever.
I love them to bits.
Jenny
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| Re: -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294521 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 23:02 |
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Jenny Delaney wrote:
> Random C wrote:
>
>>It was Marks & Sparks that told me I was a 34B. So I suspect their
>>accuracy varies wildly from branch to branch.
>
>
> Marble Arch, perchance?
Sutton, actually, I wasn't working at Inspired then. And Croydon Allders
told me the same thing.
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294526 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 23:12 |
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on 04/07/2006 21:14 Cathy Young said the following:
> Hmm. Generally speaking I have around a size 10 waist, size 14 hips and
> bust.
>
> In M&S this translates as
<snip>
And men wonder why it takes women ages to buy clothes.
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esmi
A Brief Guide to alt.fan.pratchett:
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| Re: [I] -I- Bra measurement and fitting [message #294530 ] |
Di, 04 Juli 2006 23:32 |
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Jenny Delaney wrote:
> Go to Selfridges. There's one in Brum. They are the best I've ever
> encountered (and Bravissimo are good, but not as good). They basically
> stick you in a dressing room, measure you and come back with a mountain
> of bras which they make you try on until they find a range that fits
> you. They won't let you buy a bra that doesn't fit properly but they
> won't look at you funny if you say that you don't like a particular one
> because it's not pretty enough or whatever.
>
> I love them to bits.
Gosh. With a recommendation like that I'll have to try them, thanks! I
sense a shopping trip to Birmingham in the near future.
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Cathy
http://www.bentbacktulips.co.uk/
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